Saturday, November 16, 2002 -Breaking News- On Tuesday the 11th September 2001 I was en route to a colleague of mine based in the South of The Netherlands. Whilst driving down to him we heard breaking news of the WTC attack, an unprecendented event that for lack of visual reference seemed simply unfathomable. Not until we reached our friends’ home, could we witness the live report on CNN ourselves. Since our friends living room is stacked with stylistic gadgets and avant-garde furniture, the seriousness of the events were somehow ridiculed by the design savvyness of the surrounding domestic environment. It took a while before the scope of the disaster started to sink in for us. As we went back later that afternoon the tragedy was in full spin. That evening I logged on to a bulletin board (‘Conference’ ) of a commercial artists organisation in the US. The transcript of that first day which I have used for this post, depicts vividly and emotionally the human effects of the Manhattan drama and offers a firsthand account of the making of recent history. -- Topic: World Trade Disaster (1 of 56), Read 441 times Conf: What's Up? From: Gerald Date: Tuesday, September 11, 2001 08:59 AM Turn on your TV news! JERRY -- Topic: World Trade Disaster (2 of 56), Read 336 times Conf: What's Up? From: Tim Date: Tuesday, September 11, 2001 09:18 AM Oh my God. Tim -- Topic: World Trade Disaster (3 of 56), Read 337 times Conf: What's Up? From: Tim Date: Tuesday, September 11, 2001 09:29 AM The Pentagon, too?!?????? Tim -- Topic: World Trade Disaster (4 of 56), Read 333 times Conf: What's Up? From: Stuart Date: Tuesday, September 11, 2001 09:37 AM Unbelievable pictures - PLO have apparently claimed responsibility -- Topic: World Trade Disaster (5 of 56), Read 341 times Conf: What's Up? From: Tim Date: Tuesday, September 11, 2001 09:39 AM Eyewitnesses saying the Pentagon was a deliberate strike, the airliner aimed for it. Whoever did this...these are Acts of War. Tim -- Topic: World Trade Disaster (6 of 56), Read 330 times Conf: What's Up? From: Barbara Date: Tuesday, September 11, 2001 10:18 AM I am devastated. I was outside walking (I'm just above SoHo) the dog when a plane came very low over head and I thought it was going to hit something. A minute later it did. As I came around on MacDougal St. about 10 minutes later, I saw a 2nd plane hit. My heart and thoughts are with the victims. I can only imagine the horror people thought of Pearl Harbor, now I know. Our world is so sad. Barbara -- Topic: World Trade Disaster (7 of 56), Read 338 times Conf: What's Up? From: Tim Date: Tuesday, September 11, 2001 10:21 AM This is war. I want these bastards wiped off of the face of the earth. Let's all say prayers for the thousands dead and injured. Tim -- Topic: World Trade Disaster (8 of 56), Read 341 times Conf: What's Up? From: Alex Date: Tuesday, September 11, 2001 10:35 AM Pearl Harbor is right. This is a horror. Alex -- Topic: World Trade Disaster (9 of 56), Read 335 times Conf: What's Up? From: Paula Date: Tuesday, September 11, 2001 11:18 AM It's surreal. All of San Francisco is shut down as a precaution. God help everyone, especially the victims. Paula -- Topic: World Trade Disaster (10 of 56), Read 345 times Conf: What's Up? From: Bonnie Date: Tuesday, September 11, 2001 11:23 AM Say a prayer for all those people, sitting in their little cubicles, drinking coffee....... Now, also say one more for the little people in the news media, the artists, the photographers, who will be busy for days trying to sort it out. I still fight the old panic feeling, I was an info graphic artist for many years. I would now be drawing a schematic of the collapse. Somewhere, someone is. When you think you have a bad assignment.... think of them....... Bonnie -- Topic: World Trade Disaster (11 of 56), Read 341 times Conf: What's Up? From: Campbell Date: Tuesday, September 11, 2001 11:35 AM I'm in Tribeca 6 blocks from this heinous cowardly act - its a war zone down here. I saw the second plane hit and ran down to get my daughter at PS 234 her school in shadows of the World Trade center. We just got out before the 1st tower collapsed - they are using the school for injuries - there are horrible injuries - my daughter is totally freaked. God Help Us All !!!! Campbell -- Topic: World Trade Disaster (12 of 56), Read 347 times Conf: What's Up? From: Chris Date: Tuesday, September 11, 2001 11:43 AM My prayers are for are with the victims and the families. For us, the call for support must be answered. This will produce an enormous strain on the blood supply, if the call is made, DONATE. Chris -- Topic: World Trade Disaster (13 of 56), Read 366 times Conf: What's Up? From: Tim Date: Tuesday, September 11, 2001 11:48 AM Yes, Chris. My niece is devastated. She handles corporate travellers for United. 45 minutes ago I talked with her on the phone when she confirmed that 175 went down at or near Camp David or the Pentagon. Because it hadn't been released to the news yet she couldn't return her messages. One of her clients left many messages for her trying to find out about 175. His whole family was on it. Again, yes, Chris. Pray and donate blood. Tim -- Topic: World Trade Disaster (14 of 56), Read 304 times Conf: What's Up? From: Bryan Date: Tuesday, September 11, 2001 01:54 PM What a horrible day. I can't believe the WTC is gone! This is an act of War and somebody is going to have to pay. There was panic around here today. We live not too far from the Pentagon and people were heading to West Virginia. If the roads weren't so clogged we might have joined them. My heart goes out to all those in Lower Manhattan. Bryan -- Topic: World Trade Disaster (15 of 56), Read 303 times Conf: What's Up? From: Fj Date: Tuesday, September 11, 2001 12:28 PM The Roaches still live and the Ispot still works...this city is like Hiroshima right now...I wanna get out and can't, my partners Nephew is MIA he works there, we are freaking out! Phones don't work either. This is UNREAL! FJ -- Topic: World Trade Disaster- interconnectedness (16 of 56), Read 323 times Conf: What's Up? From: Bonnie Date: Tuesday, September 11, 2001 12:38 PM I am marveling at the interconnectedness of our world these days. Yes, [xx] still works. But what will not.? I'm sitting in Florida, contemplating whether or not this affects me much. I'm sitting, doing work, not getting feedback via email from a client, planning on delivering final via email. Clients servers are in Chicago, Chicago is afraid they'll be next, sending everyone home...... If more metropolitan areas all panic & send people home, and stuff starts to shut down.... just imagine.... phones, email, banking..... I guess stock market is already killed. The scope of things nowadays............. Bonnie -- Topic: World Trade Disaster- interconnectedness2 (17 of 56), Read 336 times Conf: What's Up? From: Bonnie Date: Tuesday, September 11, 2001 12:51 PM I've been trolling online for news update, every site on the east coast is all jammed up, I got through at www.latimes.com! More to contemplate...... how much mail got destroyed.... anybody have checks coming from that area? Bonnie -- Topic: World Trade Disaster (18 of 56), Read 295 times Conf: What's Up? From: Rémy Date: Tuesday, September 11, 2001 01:34 PM I am totally collapsed by all those images I saw those last minutes on TV in France. TERRIBLE thing : Some palestinians laughing and in joy !!! Those people are inhuman ! If someone knows an organization to help families of victims, keep me posted. Rémy -- Topic: World Trade Disaster--NYers & Blood EMERGENCY (19 of 56), Read 297 times Conf: What's Up? From: Claudia Date: Tuesday, September 11, 2001 02:41 PM Anyone in the NY/NJ area, if you can get to your local hospital to donate blood, DO IT. It's easy, quick & doesn't hurt even a little bit. I just heard on Channel 2 that you need to already have a donor card to donate. So if you do, GO! Remember, you cannot have a cold or a rash, or be on certain meds-- if you think you CAN donate blood (you have to be between 18-75, and weigh at least 110 lbs.) PLEASE do it. NY has been in a blood emergency all summer, due to no longer accepting Euro-blood (because of the risk of contracting Creutzfeld-Jakob syndrome). It's something ALMOST EVERYONE can do, and it will really help that awful sad feeling in the pit of your stomach. Prayers & blessings to all~ Claudia *~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~* Pray for the dead, but fight like hell for the living. ~ Mother Jones (née Mary Harris) -- Topic: World Trade Disaster--NYers & Blood EMERGENCY (20 of 56), Read 306 times Conf: What's Up? From: Scott Date: Tuesday, September 11, 2001 02:46 PM Get to your family, hug them and don't let go. This is horrible. Seeing what happened from the first plane crash on...unbelievable. Scott "They Punctured My Yolk" -- Topic: World Trade Disaster--NYers & Blood EMERGENCY (21 of 56), Read 304 times Conf: What's Up? From: Tom Date: Tuesday, September 11, 2001 03:01 PM I can't believe what has happened. I don't know if anyone has claimed responsibility but there was no one the last time I heard the news. I hope everyone is okay. Jami and Gerry are, by the sounds of it thank God. I got a few emails from people I was concerned about and I know a few others are okay. I'm really sorry for you and I hope that you don't have relations who are effected though I know some of you will. All the very best. Sorry for your troubles. Take care. Tom -- Topic: World Trade Disaster--NYers & Blood EMERGENCY (22 of 56), Read 313 times Conf: What's Up? From: Jamy Date: Tuesday, September 11, 2001 03:27 PM Tom, Thank you. Jerry and I, our families and the rest of the staff are all fine as far as I know. The phones have been off and on all day- thank God for the Internet that let us stay connected. I worked at home today. Although I am not as close to the WTC as Campbell, I was walking in my front door when the first plane came in low overhead. Then the rest of this endless morning followed. I am still watching the belches of smoke as I write this. I walked up to 22nd St. to get my daughter from school, and the similarity to a war zone was unmistakable. People bandaged and covered in soot, some laughing wildly, some numb and vacant. It's hard to watch. It's impossible to look away. Jamy -- Topic: World Trade Disaster--NYers & Blood EMERGENCY (23 of 56), Read 295 times Conf: What's Up? From: Campbell Date: Tuesday, September 11, 2001 04:31 PM We've just been told to pack our bags everything south of Franklin has to be evacuated, there are 20 separate building fires burning in lower Manhattan. Campbell -- Topic: World Trade Disaster--NYers & Blood EMERGENCY (24 of 56), Read 289 times Conf: What's Up? From: Tim Date: Tuesday, September 11, 2001 05:07 PM Well, Campbell, I for one am glad you and yours are okay and I'm sure everyone else is, too. I looked at those buildings burning and could only think of the people inside. The buildings can be replaced. My thoughts and prayers go out to everyone there and at the Pentagon and in Pennsylvania. And of course all of the families that will never have their loved ones arrive in Los Angeles and San Francisco. I'll even say a prayer or two for the people that are celebrating this horrible atrocity. Tim -- Topic: World Trade Disaster--NYers & Blood EMERGENCY (25 of 56), Read 307 times Conf: What's Up? From: Gary Date: Tuesday, September 11, 2001 02:55 PM On 9/11/01 2:41:50 PM, Claudia wrote: >Anyone in the NY/NJ area, if >you can get to your local >hospital to donate blood, DO >IT. It's easy, quick & doesn't >hurt even a little bit. >I just heard on CHannel 2 that >you need to already have a >donor card to donate. So if >you do, GO! > >Remember, you cannot have a >cold or a rash, or be on >certain meds-- if you think >you CAN donate blood (you have >to be between 18-75, and weigh >at least 110 lbs.) PLEASE do >it. > >NY has been in a blood >emergency all summer, due to >no longer accepting Euro-blood >(because of the risk of >contracting Creutzfeld-Jakob >syndrome). > >It's something ALMOST EVERYONE >can do, and it will really >help that awful sad feeling in >the pit of your stomach. >Prayers & blessings to all~ >~C. >*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~ >*~*~*~*~* >Pray for the dead, but fight >like hell for the living. >~ Mother Jones (née Mary >Harris) > Good post, Claudia. In fact, I'd like to add that many planes have been diverted to Toronto Pearson Intl. Airport. For Canadians: If you are feeling the need to help with this terrible catastrophe, one can give blood (as Canada has been asked to help) at the Manulife Centre, 55 Bloor St W. 12-4 PM and also at 67 College St from 11-3PM. Also the radio has broadcast that people who are stranded here from various airlines need billeting, the number to call is 416-338-0338. Also, if any New Yorkers can manage to get the hell out of there any time soon, take refuge wherever you can. I welcome anybody to come to my place that wants to get away.. I'm serious. God help us all. Gary -- Topic: World Trade Disaster--NYers & Blood EMERGENCY (26 of 56), Read 314 times Conf: What's Up? From: Tim Date: Tuesday, September 11, 2001 03:05 PM Very generous, Gary. Regarding Remy's post above. I watched the palestinians laughing and whooping it up, handing out candy and celebrating this terrible catastrophe. I cannot agree more that it is despicable behavior. But I must also add that when the Oklahoma bombing occurred I was one of those that immediately thought it was Middle Eastern terrorist plot. And we know now who actually did it: a corn-fed American boy. So, until we know for sure who carried this out I hope we don't automatically start blaming certain groups of people. Even though they hate America it is entirely possible that a palestinian group had nothing to do with it. Let's find out who did this. And then let's wipe them off the face of the earth. Tim -- Topic: World Trade Disaster--NYers & Blood EMERGENCY (27 of 56), Read 300 times Conf: What's Up? From: Shawna Date: Tuesday, September 11, 2001 03:55 PM I feel sick... I have a cousin who's a police officer in NYC, and no one's heard anything from him yet. I'm sure he's fine, helping rescue the survivors... I also have two other dearly loved cousins who both work within TWO BLOCKS of the World Trade Center... word is they're fine, thank god. I'm so shaken by this (as we all are)... I saw one guy on tv who said it's like a hallucination - that's exactly what it feels like... I can't imagine being in New York right now. Shawna -- Topic: World Trade Disaster--NYers & Blood EMERGENCY (28 of 56), Read 216 times Conf: What's Up? From: Shawna Date: Tuesday, September 11, 2001 11:19 PM >I feel sick... I have a cousin >who's a police officer in NYC, >and no one's heard anything >from him yet. ...just thought I'd let you guys know I heard through the grapevine that he's fine. -- Topic: World Trade Disaster--NYers & Blood EMERGENCY (29 of 56), Read 290 times Conf: What's Up? From: Rémy Date: Tuesday, September 11, 2001 04:46 PM Tim, no I am not sure (and nobody here) that some Palestinians are responsible, I just blame their ATTITUDE, and I think it must be blamed. All the best everyone I am all with you in this tragedy Rémy -- Topic: World Trade Disaster--NYers & Blood EMERGENCY (30 of 56), Read 297 times Conf: What's Up? From: Tom Date: Tuesday, September 11, 2001 05:02 PM They are a very poor people who are easily influenced by propaganda. Yes their attitude stinks but people who see themselves at war celebrate their (perceived) enemies downfalls. No one has claimed responsibility. Don't react. It's just as possible that the attack came from some unidentified source who want the American people to react in a particular way for ulterior motives. Tom -- Topic: World Trade Disaster--NYers & Blood EMERGENCY (31 of 56), Read 273 times Conf: What's Up? From: Fj Date: Tuesday, September 11, 2001 05:06 PM Good news my friend and my roommate's Nephew went in to work early today so he narrowly escaped after the impacts but before the collapses. Been sweating with worry all day for him, since he and his wife just had a baby! Still have no outgoing phone service and tomorrow, I am outta here, if they open the bridges and tunnels. Good idea to give blood. I wish I could, but a bout of hepatitis in my late teen years keeps me from donating. The worse is yet to come. God I hope the politicians spare us any rhetoric. PS From my rooftop I can see the burning continues and another building just collapsed. What a trip. Fj -- Topic: World Trade Disaster--NYers & Blood EMERGENCY (32 of 56), Read 259 times Conf: What's Up? From: Pam Date: Tuesday, September 11, 2001 07:55 PM Such tragedy and my heart goes out to all those victims involved! This morning my daughter who still is awaiting the birth of her daughter soon to be born came in and told me the shocking news. We felt so numb as I was actually supposed to be flying out this morning on American Airlines but got on a bus about a week and half ago when my daughter was experiencing early labor pains. My prayers goes out to all those victims and their families. Pam (now in CO visiting until October 11) -- Topic: World Trade Disaster--NYers & Blood EMERGENCY (33 of 56), Read 258 times Conf: What's Up? From: Jim Date: Tuesday, September 11, 2001 08:43 PM Martha and I are numb. We just heard on CNN the report of the number of brave fire fighters and police who are lost. We have followed this all day and become more devastated by each report. Our hearts and prayers go out to all those who lost their lives and those who lost loved ones. We are regular donors at the local Red Cross and will be standing in the now three hour lines here. Martha's the real trooper she gave not too long ago and I think she just makes it under the limit to give now. BTW the Red Cross will need blood for months to come , so if you can't give blood now make an appointment to donate to replenish the already too small supply that that will be diminished by this horror. Love to you all, Martha and Jim -- Topic: World Trade Disaster--NYers & Blood EMERGENCY (34 of 56), Read 257 times Conf: What's Up? From: Alice Date: Tuesday, September 11, 2001 09:54 PM Words fail me. I just wanted to log on here and post my support to you in the NY and DC areas. I'm listening to mayor Giuliani now, talking about the fire and police personnel who are dead and lost right now, personal friends he named, as well as all those unknown at this time. Take care, all of you. Alice -- Topic: World Trade Disaster--NYers & Blood EMERGENCY (35 of 56), Read 259 time Conf: What's Up? From: John Date: Tuesday, September 11, 2001 10:46 PM On 9/11/01 9:54:37 PM, Alice wrote: >Words fail me. I just wanted >to log on here and post my >support to you in the NY and >DC areas. I'm listening to >mayor Giuliani now, talking >about the fire and police >personnel who are dead and >lost right now, personal >friends he named, as well as >all those unknown at this >time. Take care, all of you. > >Alice > Alice mirrors my feelings about this indescribable horror...I'm torn between wanting to lash out at those who perpetrate or celebrate this act and dreading the certain backlash that will catch more innocents in its wake...I'm in shock and have no answers. God bless all of you in the NY and DC areas, with a special prayer to those with friends or relatives in the safety services - the ones who ran directly into the path of destruction to offer aid. John -- posted by Walter at 11/16/2002